Do We Need Adam? Surprisingly Strong and Sparse Reinforcement Learning with SGD in LLMs
Sagnik Mukherjee, Lifan Yuan, Pavan Jayasinha, Dilek Hakkani-Tür, Hao Peng
Abstract
Reinforcement learning (RL), particularly RL from verifiable reward (RLVR), has become a crucial phase of training large language models (LLMs) and a key focus of current scaling efforts. However, optimization practices in RL largely follow those of next-token-prediction stages (e.g., pretraining and supervised fine-tuning), despite the fundamental differences between RL and these stages emphasized by recent work. One such practice is the use of the AdamW optimizer, which is widely adopted for training large-scale transformers despite its high memory overhead. Our analysis shows that both momentum and adaptive learning rate of AdamW are less influential in RL than in SFT, leading us to hypothesize that RL benefits less from Adam's perparameter adaptive learning rates and momentum. Confirming our hypothesis, our experiments demonstrate that the substantially more memoryefficient SGD, which is known to perform poorly in supervised learning of large-scale transformers, matches or even outperforms AdamW in RL for LLMs. Remarkably, full fine-tuning with SGD updates fewer than 0.02% of model parameters without any sparsity-promoting regularization, more than 1,000× fewer than AdamW. Our analysis offers potential reasons for this update sparsity. Our findings provide fresh insights into the optimization dynamics of RL in LLMs and demonstrate that RL can be substantially more parameterefficient than previously recognized. 1
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